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rarsa · Last edited by rarsa on Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:35 am; edited 10 times in total

Here is the XDG menus package for Puppy 1.x and Puppy 2.x

Install it as an alien pupget.

Click the appropriate components you want to install:

Download and install these two components regardless of the WM you use
Gnome menus libraries (321 Kb)
Puppy menu structure base files (24 Kb)

Now download and install the menu generator for the window managers you are using.
JWM menu generator (4 Kb)
Fvwm95 menu generator (16 Kb)
IceWM menu generator (4 Kb)
XFCE menu generator (5 Kb) (see notes)
Fluxbox menu generator (4 Kb)
Blackbox menu generator (4 Kb)
Hackedbox menu generator (4 Kb)
Fbpanel menu generator (5 Kb) (see notes)

Hosting of the file is graciously provided by GermanPup.

Notes for XFCE
I used the Xfce under 1MB package.
- If you used a different installation your menu file may be in a different place than expected. if that's the case, just replace your menu file with a symlink to /usr/etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml
- If your icons don't show do

Lobster · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:54 am Post subject:

You can always host here rarsa
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?p=50928#50928

Look forward to this and might well use it on my over the edge (like cutting edge but more dangerous) Linux Tmxxine 1.07c (Codenamed Fish Sauce) Would this work with Xfce? - I did read somewhere from you they have an odd menu structure . . .

Do not give up on these broad stroke iniatatives - Kenny is learning about XDG and it is a very good 'standard'. Bravo!

BarryK · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:30 am Post subject:

yes, i would like to (finally) get around to looking at putting xdg into pup2.

Nathan F · Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 875 Location: Katy, TX

Oh, thank you. Please do, it's great.

Nathan

PS - Lobster I saw Tmxxine on distrowatch this morning, congrats and good luck. Make sure you have lots of bandwidth, because you will get several hundred downloads every time the name is mentioned on Distrowatch Very Happy

rarsa · Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject:

Lobster:

Thanks for the reminder. I had forgoten about Germanpup generosity.

I will also upload all the individual menu generators for each of the window managers including the ones created by Nathan. And Yes, it includes XFCE.

For XFCE I am bypassing their XDG implementation because its incomplete and generate the menu on X startup as we do with other WM that do not support "generated" menus. From the enduser point of view it will be the same.

Barry:

The file I'm going to upload is not 100% an unleashed.

The main differences with the unleashed we included in 109CE are the following:

- In 109 we introduced a small change to fixmenus so entries for the apps included in the remastered would be enabled. (when you see the new fixmenus you'll see how easier it is to work with XDG)

- The package I'll be uploading includes a pinstall.sh that enables the menu entries for the apps already installed and replaces the <RootMenu> node of the .jwmrc

I will create an unleashed for you to play with.

rarsa · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject:

I have some concerns regarding XDG packaging.

I'd like to get your feedback on the original thread:

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=55657#55657

Lobster · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject:

Very important piece of work Rarsa - many thanks - it makes Xfce totally usable
JWM menu is much more logical
Localisation efforts will be improved

Many, many thanks.

To install

You will now have a simpler menu structure as in Puppy 1.09CE
The above image is from Xfce

Here is JWM

Rarsa - WP in Xfce is displaying as "Beaver" - should be Geany -
Xpaint is no longer in Puppy
rest seems OK

rarsa · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject:

rarsa · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:

BarryK · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject:

Yes, I recognise the problems with have symlinks of apps that aren't there, and will move away from doing that.

fitzhugh · Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 196 Location: Berkeley

Just spent a bit finding and understanding how Puppy/jwm do menus and a long while tweaking it to my satisfaction... but I will happily start all over if it means I can easily move between window managers since as a newbie that was my main problem with trying others. I don't actually like the look of jwm - no offense, I see it serves a purpose quite well buy looking like windows (and admit this helped me) - but I would love to have a slick looking desktop like I keep seeing screenshots of. THEN I will feel like I have completely reposessed my computer back from M$ winblows and, even better, made it something of my own!
Also means those more expert users who have switched to other window managers can easily create .pups from inside their own usual window manager and not have to test both, if I grasp this.

Thanks!
Fitzhugh

rarsa · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject:

[quote=]but I will happily start all over if it means I can easily move between window managers since as a newbie that was my main problem with trying others.[/quote]

I am preparing full documentation both for users and developers.

To commit my self to do this, I volunteered to do a presentation to my local Linux Users group

If you are in Canada around Kitchener/Waterloo you are welcome to attend the meeting.

(Hey, we are just 1 hour away from Toronto, and London and about two hours away from Buffalo).

This LUG has all kind of members. from the very technical to the not technical at all.

rarsa · Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject:

Here are a couple of news:

New XDG packages
I'm going through a full reorganization of the xdgmenus project repository.

According to the xdgmenus thread in the forum I am setting it up so we have one package for each of the following:

- XDG Menu structure (*.desktop, *.directory, *.menu) (DONE)
- Gnome-menus (the Gnome menus library) (DONE)
- One package for each of the window managers menu generators. (jwm, icewm and fvwm completed)

To accomplish this I am doing the following:

- Renaming and moving files and directories
- Creating one Makefile per package and deleting the make-tar so the build process is more standard.
- Adding README files.

XDG Presentation slides
I've uploaded the XDG presentation I did for my local Linux users group

http://kwlug.org/node/313

Right now my parents are in Canada so I haven't been able to deliver faster (I am really enjoying the time with them).

August will be a better time to complete this.

rarsa · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject:

Great milestone!!

I've cleaned up, tested and repackaged the menu generators for all window managers.

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=55316#55316

They are currently packaged as pupgets. Very small modifications are required to make them unleased packages.

So, regarless of the Window manager you prefer, go ahead, install the packages and start using XDG.

jam · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 75

Great work rarsa!

This complements the work I'm doing with IceWM menu options. Now if I make the changes to one WM it will carry through all of them.